Friday, April 27, 2012

1st time visit

Hi! My husband and I are planning a 4-5 day trip to the area next October. We will go to the Balloon Fest for a day but stay in Santa Fe. We would love some help planning an itinerary for day trips and what we absolutely can%26#39;t miss right there. We would like to stay within easy walking distance to all the shops, galleries and restaurants, and are somewhat ';foodies';. Our budget is about $200- $225 a night for lodging, and the idea of a kiva fireplace in our room is very appealing! Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated!

1st time visit

I%26#39;ll let our Santa Fe experts (and others) clue you in on Santa Fe, but I did want to comment on your statement that you were going to the balloon fiesta, but staying in Santa Fe.

I would strongly recommend you stay overnight in Albuquerque, before attending a morning session of the balloon fiesta. The balloons launch at about 7a.m., as the sun comes over the Sandia Mountains to the east, and with traffic and all...you%26#39;d want to be on the grounds by 6:00am at the latest. Traffic congestion is heavy enough waiting to get into the Balloon Park, so if you added the hour drive from Santa Fe, you%26#39;d need to leave SF by 4:30am probably. Not that it can%26#39;t be done of course.

Assuming you%26#39;re flying in to Albuquerque anyway, you could browse the historic Old Town area, and it%26#39;s diverse museums in the afternoon, and evening. Then try some ';New Mexican'; cuisine hopefully, and then be up early for the fiesta. With weather playing such a part in whether or not the balloon fiesta gets off the ground (three of five mass ascensions were cancelled this year because of winds), you are rolling the dice with only 1 day set aside for the balloons.

Whatever you decide (and we%26#39;ll all be glad to help with your planning), get your reservations in as early as possible. If you have time, don%26#39;t miss Taos %26amp; Taos Pueblo. Thank you for choosing to visit us! You won%26#39;t be disappointed if you%26#39;re looking for somewhere ';different.'; :-)

1st time visit

I just went on the 2009 Balloon fest site and see that most of the activities are in the AM. Great idea to stay near the festival grounds for 1 night and experience the activities there, rather than drive from Santa Fe. Will 3 days in Santa Fe be enough to get to see everything we want to? We are pretty active when it comes to vacations and like to squeeze in as much as we can, but I want to do justice to enjoying Santa Fe!


Of course, 3 days won%26#39;t be enough! But, it is time to sample Santa Fe! This is the one city that we return to time after time because we just enjoy being there. We always rent a casita through www.vrbo.com This gives us some extra space and we fell more like a ';local';. You can easily find a casita within walking distance to the plaza.

You can see the main areas of Santa Fe in a long day, but will probably want to do a bit every day. I recommend Loretto Chapel, the Governor%26#39;s Palace and the O%26#39;Keefe museum as ';must sees';. There are also a set of museums a bit out of town that are worth a visit. You will also want to spend some time walking along Canyon Road with all the art galleries. On our last visit, we rented a casita about 2 blocks from Canyon Road and 4 blocks from the plaza.

We usually do a few ';day trips'; when there. Bandalier Nation Park is a ';must see';. We often visit a pueblo, drive through the marvelous countryside, etc. So, we do a bit of Santa Fe every day and a short day trip.

Food! There are wonderful choices. One of my favorite lunches is to buy from one of the carts on the plaza and sit there and eat and watch the people!

I hopeyou enjoy it as much as we do!


Three days in Santa Fe would be enough...since you are ';sampling'; Northern New Mexico. Bandelier is pretty neat, but with such short time considerations I would instead strongly recommend a side trip up to Taos, and Taos Pueblo which is little changed since Coronado came through in 1540-42! The latter is one of my ';must sees,'; for anyone visiting Northern New Mexico...and taking the ';Low Road'; through Espanola, Velarde, and Pilar via the Rio Grande River%26#39;s gorge, it will only take you about 1 1/2 hours drive from Santa Fe. Taos Pueblo is only 3 miles NE of Taos%26#39;s downtown historic plaza (and shops and restaurants).

I%26#39;m glad you%26#39;re considering my advice to stay in Albuquerque overnight before the balloon fiesta%26#39;s morning events. You should leave your motel/hotel by 5:30am. I know. OUCH! But it will be a life-long memorable experience. I will put in some extra prayers to the Wind-Gods that you will have a calm morning. Enjoy!


Thanks so much for the touring advice! We are quite excited to drive along the Rio Grande; would rather take the scenic route to anywhere we go for a day visit. I think a 2 hour drive for exploring in any direction is probably enough for us, since that will take a chunk of our precious days there. Any other advice on where to stay? Since the visit is short we would like to stay somewhere where a nice breakfast is included. There seems to be an abundance of places to stay and the pricing is all over the board for inns and B %26amp; B%26#39;s. The casita idea is great, but my experience with owners on VBRO have been that they want to rent for a week, especially during high tourist season. Also, what would people suggest for a ';special'; meal?


With only 5 days to see Albuquerque, the Balloon Fiesta and Santa Fe, you won%26#39;t be able to do it all, but will have a nice trip.

There are many hotels in the Plaza area in Santa Fe, some have a fireplace, but many do not. Look at Hotel Santa Fe, Inn of the Governors. Also there are many B%26amp;B%26#39;s in the area that may work for you. Look at www.santafe.org for lodging ideas and prices.

Dining in Santa Fe is awesome. All kinds of places to try. For Northern NM try The Shed, Tomasitas, Blue Corn Cafe. Many other nice places as well including Coyote Cafe, Pranzo, El Meson, Old House, Anasazi, Geronimo etc.... Check out places on the above link for more ideas.

Day 1 arrive in Albuquerque. Visit Old Town area, museums, Pueblo Cultural Center. Little Anita%26#39;s is a great place to eat. Stay near Balloon Fiesta area which is northern part of Albuquerque. If there is a Balloon glow this night, see that!

Day 2 Balloon Fiesta in morning. Maybe take the Sandia Tram later in the day. Drive up to Santa Fe.

Day 3 Santa Fe all day. Visit the Plaza area, Canyon Road, see some museums (state museums are closed on Mondays), do some shopping etc.

Day 4 Day trip to either Bandelier Nat Mon, Los Alamos or go up to Taos.

Day 5 Finish up your visit in Santa Fe. Drive up toward the Ski Basin, do a hike, possibly see the aspens turning. Back to Albuquerque for the night if you have an early morning flight.

Have fun planning.

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  • New Years Day bowl games

    Hello everyone! We are lucky enough to be spending NYE in Santa Fe and would like to find a place to watch bowl games on Jan 1. I read about the Green Onion and I remember watching basketball somewhere on the plaza a few year ago but couldn%26#39;t find the place on-line, is it still there? Any other suggestions? Thanks!



    New Years Day bowl games


    A few for you. :-)





    http://www.gosantafe.com/sportsbars/



    New Years Day bowl games


    I know this is late, but for others interested in sports bars..





    The Green Onion is closed as far as I know. santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/Green-Oni…





    Check Catamount, Del Charro, El Paseo, Ore House, Cowgirl, Railyard, Blue Corn Cafe

    1 Day in Albuquerque - What to do?????

    In Mid-January I%26#39;ll be in Albuquerque on business.





    I%26#39;ll have 1 1/2 days (more or less) to do things.





    Suggestions?





    4-5 hours will be about the amount of time I have each day.



    1 Day in Albuquerque - What to do?????


    Welcome to Albuquerque, Debsky!





    If it were me, I%26#39;d explore Old Town a bit. It%26#39;s the historic part of Albuquerque, and it%26#39;s got lots of interesting shops and museums.





    Or, if the weather is nice, I%26#39;d take the tram up to Sandia Peak at sunset, have a cocktail at High Finance, then come down %26amp; eat dinner at the County Line. Or check out some authentic New Mexican food. Try El Norteno, Sadie%26#39;s, or even the Frontier.





    Whatever you do: if you see a Golden Pride BBQ Chicken (fast food joint) pull in and order the number 9 burrito. It%26#39;s just bacon egg cheese potato and green chili, but it%26#39;s legendary.





    Hope you enjoy your visit!



    1 Day in Albuquerque - What to do?????


    In addition to the above suggestions, you might consider a visit to the Indian Pueblo Cultural Center.




    All of the above are good suggestions. Old Town is probably #1 with your short time frame. I always suggest new visitors take in the Albuquerque Museum on Mountain Road first, (immediately east of Old Town), as it gives an excellent insight into the ancient history of Northern New Mexico%26#39;s Anasazis, Pueblos, Spanish, Mexican, and Anglo cultures (now joined by dozens more thankfully). A tour will only take about an hour, including their fine art galleries.





    The Indian Pueblo Cultural Center, has traditional dances on weekends, if that would match your schedule. About noon and 2pm I believe.





    While in and around the Old Town area, I%26#39;d recommend the Little Anitas Restaurant at Rio Grande Blvd. %26amp; Mountain Road at the NW entrance into Old Town. It%26#39;s not the best in Albuquerque, but it%26#39;s good, and not as ';tourista'; (i.e. ';bland';) as some of the other Old Town restaurants. The Church Cafe (behind the church on the plaza) is also good, Remember, I%26#39;m going for convenience here...with only 4-5 hours to play with Debsky. Enjoy your visit, and we hope you%26#39;ll want to come back for a longer stay next time!




    I love the burrito suggestion!!!!!




    I%26#39;m just greatful I will have some time to see things even if it is just a few hours.





    I have gone on so many business trips and not seen a thing other than offices and restaurants.





    Actually I cheated and booked myself in a day early - shhhhhh!




    Good for you!





    Don%26#39;t worry Debsky, your secret is safe with us! What happens on the forum, STAYS on the forum!! Right guys?





    ;)




    Welcome to Albuquerque Debsky. I concur with the others who posted here. Since you have an extra day, weather permitting, you could drive around the Sandias, up to the Crest, and on up the Turquoise Trail to Madrid. It%26#39;s a quaint old coal mining town with lots of interesting shops and galleries. You could do this in 4 or 5 hours. Another suggestion right in Albuquerque is the Petroglyph National Monument. Over 30,000 drawings etched into the volcanic rock, most of them pre-history.




    I was thinking about the petroglyphs. A long, long time ago I was an anthropology/archeology student so I know that will be interesting for me.





    Sounds like if my time gets shorter, as I will be staying at the Hotel Albuquerque, I should, at least, get to walk around Old Town.




    The Petroglyphs are cool. It%26#39;s really quiet out there %26amp; if the weather is nice, the sky is gorgeous. You can quickly forget that you%26#39;re in a city.





    If it%26#39;s sunny, wear sunscreen (even in January). The ground out there is very sandy, so it%26#39;s hard walking %26amp; you%26#39;ll want sturdy shoes. Keep your eyes peeled where you step: all the critters out there are well camouflaged %26amp; blend in. Hubby walks out there all the time %26amp; has almost stepped on a few of them.





    And bring a bottle of water!





    p.s. if you%26#39;re staying downtown, your closest golden pride is at Yale and Lomas. ;)




    ummmm, define Critters!!!!!! (I am from the land of palmetto bugs - are we talking scorpions)

    Is there RV or camp sites available at or near Carlsbad NP?

    Planning Family trip to Carlsbad Caverns in summer and would like to Camp out, is there any place near the caverns?



    Is there RV or camp sites available at or near Carlsbad NP?


    There is an RV/Campground just outside of the park at White%26#39;s City. Also a few RV/Campgrounds in and around Carlsbad (KOA I think). In summer it will be VERY hot... tent camping will be uncomfortable. I would think about a motel for a few days......



    Is there RV or camp sites available at or near Carlsbad NP?


    The KOA in Carlsbad is really nice, they have little cottages they rent ( Kozy Kottages? ) that will sleep about 4-6 people, have a bathroom and shower and will give you more of a ';camping'; feeling than a motel. None were available the last time we went there ( book early ) but the prices are comparable to a motel room.




    I would just ditto that Carlsbad is very hot in summer, often 105-plus. The better motel/hotels could probably be counted on two fingers...(check out the TripAdvisor.com hotel ratings for Carlsbad). If below the top two, you might as well consider the Motel 6 on the way out of town to Carlsbad NP. I found it to be as good as most Motel 6%26#39;s...adaquate.





    I camped at the KOA in my van, but in October, and it is in good shape.





    Of course the positive factor for a summer visit here, is that the caverns themselves stay at a very cool temperature year round. Enjoy your visit, it is something special.





    If you want some great pine-forest camping, continue NW to the Cloudcroft area. White Sands National Monument is only 30 miles below, west of Alamogordo. Visit the sands by mid-morning in tne summer, and bring your own water, and dark sunglasses! :-)

    Albuquerque and Santa Fe

    If you are not into trying to park in Santa Fe; don%26#39;t want to pay the high hotel prices there, then you might consider Albuquerque. Only fifty miles from SF, you can now ride the RailRunner between the two cities. The train stops several places in Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and connecting bus service is quite good. For just one day visiting Santa Fe, this might be an option for you.



    Have ridden the train and it is cheap, fast and fun.





    Albuquerque and Santa Fe


    Actually Abq Old Town Plaza to Santa Fe Plaza is more like 65 miles, part of which is on a max 35mph road from I25 into Santa Fe. Plan on at least 1 hour of driving.





    Railrunner is a great option, and stops close to the Santa Fe Plaza. You can either walk or take a bus. Keep in mind that the train was designed for commuters, so not too many mid day trains.





    Have a great trip.



    Albuquerque and Santa Fe


    The RailRunner service through the middle Rio Grande Valley is certainly an excellent addition to the communities currently being served.





    Let%26#39;s all hope that there will be more RailRunner trains scheduled for this year%26#39;s Summer, tourist season!


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  • April RV Rally...information please

    Hi, We are visiting New Mexico this April travelling in a RV. I would like info about RV Sites near to the %26#39;%26#39;RV Rally Site%26#39;%26#39; so we can fit in a one day visit. Are there any one night %26#39;stop overs%26#39; at the Rally Site that have a shuttle to or from the venue? The RV that we are renting is only 25 foot long.

    We also hope to find time to visit the city too.

    Dave and Lynne Seniors travelling from the UK

    April RV Rally...information please

    Here%26#39;s a link to their website. I know nothing about this event, so can%26#39;t help much. There are RV parks in Abq and Santa Fe. www.therally.com/index.cfm

    April RV Rally...information please

    Many thanks...I%26#39;ll see what it offers. Dave

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  • Would love some planning advice

    A group of us-3 couples with 2 children under 6, and 1 year old and a 15 year are thinking about planning a trip to Taos. I have no idea where to start. I think we would like a condo as close to the ski lodge as possible. Any idea of a place or a location to start? Also, any recommendations or advice would help.





    Any ideas would so be appreciated.







    Tammie



    Would love some planning advice


    Here%26#39;s some ideas... I am not Taos expert...





    http://www.taos.org/



    http://www.skitaos.org/



    http://www.taosvacationguide.com

    visit in end of march

    hi i am flying into phoenix from NJ and will renting a car to drive to alq/santa fe for 5 days i am a single gay male





    1) how long is the drive frm phoenix to alq



    2) what will the weather be like at the end of march



    3) any good gay b %26amp; b in alq or santa fe



    4) should i stay in one place or both places





    any more information will be helpful





    visit in end of march


    1. According to Yahoo Maps, the distance between Phoenix and Albuquerque is 466 miles and will take 6 hours and 37 minutes to travel. Unless you have some reason to be in Phoenix, you might wish to consider flying directly into ABQ; Southwest has plenty of flights in and out.





    2. The weather will be pretty much like NJ at that time of year: pleasant during the day, cool to cold at night, and breezy most of the time.





    3. As for B%26amp;Bs, I%26#39;ll leave this one to local experts more familiar with the area than I am.





    4. You might consider splitting up your stay so that you stay in both places. Santa Fe is a easy one-hour drive from ABQ; you could stay the first night or two in ABQ, travel to Santa Fe and stay there, then spend your last night in ABQ before flying out.



    visit in end of march


    Re #4: IMO, I would concentrate my stay in Santa Fe due to the many museums, art galleries, historical and cultural sites. Loretto Chapel is the one site I most remember from my first visit to Santa Fe.

    Places to go dancing in Vegas for an older crowd (50+)

    I am going to Vegas with a friend next week and I love to dance. The trouble is I am 51 and would like to feel comfortable in my surroundings - meaning I don%26#39;t want to necessarily be with a bunch of 20 year olds. Does anyone know of some places that attract and older crowd. Basically my dance form is getting on the floor and shaking it. I am not talking about ballroom dancing.





    Thanks in advance for the help.



    Places to go dancing in Vegas for an older crowd (50+)


    Do you mean Las Vegas Nevada? This is the New Mexico forum and usually when people say they are going to Vegas they mean the one in Nevada...

    Ski Clothing?

    Hey I%26#39;ll be in the Alberqurque and Santa Fe area Jan. 16 to 19th. Will be attempting to ski for the first time and have no idea what I%26#39;ll need. Also will be traveling in a cold place with snow, which is rare for me.





    Will jeans and sweaters in layers be enough? I do have enough sense to buy a thermal layer, and take jacket and gloves.



    Ski Clothing?


    Skiing in jeans is not a good idea, you will be cold and wet within minutes!





    Get ski pants or bibs. Sports Authority, Big 5 Sports and even Walmart have them around $30. Also, wear a hat, sunglasses or goggles and sunscreen.



    Ski Clothing?


    I%26#39;m with CasaAzul. My kids learned to ski in jeans but purchased ski pants with their babysitting money as soon as they possibly could!





    Goggles are great but you can probably get by with good sunglasses and a headstrap to keep them on.





    Good socks are a must. My family prefers the Smartwool brand and they are great for hiking or general wear, too, not just skiing.

    US Road Trip

    Hi All,

    Myself and my fiancé (both in our late 20’s) are about to embark on a 3 week US road trip after living in London for 3 years on our way back to live in Australia. Before we leave in a few days time I wanted to get your thoughts on the below. The flights and car are booked and can’t be changed and most of the accommodation is also booked.

    So all that’s left is to add/remove any activities… thanks so much in advance!

    Sat 13th December: London – Miami

    ? Fly: London – Miami (arrive early afternoon)

    Sun 14th December: Miami

    ?

    Mon 15th December: Miami

    ? Possible Key Largo (Florida Keys) Day trip – See Key West

    ? See: Miami Heat vs Milwaukee Bucks (America Airlines Stadium)

    Tues 16th December: Miami

    ? Possible Everglades Day trip

    ? Possible Naples Day Trip (stunning beaches with the highest concentration of millionaires in the USA – 2 hours from Miami)

    Wed 17th December: Miami – Houston - Austin

    ? Fly Continental late afternoon

    ? Pick up hire car

    ? Drive to Austin (3.5 Hours)

    Thurs 18th December: Austin

    ? Visit Zilker Park for the giant Christmas tree, the trail of lights and the yule log

    ? Visit 6th Street downtown for the bar district

    ? Eat at Salt Lick BBQ

    Fri 19th December: Austin – El Paso (8.5 hour drive)

    ? Watch the sunset in El Paso

    Sat 20th December: El Paso - Santa Fe (5 hour drive)

    ? See White Sands National Monument

    Sun 21st December: Santa Fe – Sedona (6 hour drive)

    ? Visit Alburquerque

    ? Stop in Gallup for a cup of coffee at the El Rancho Hotelo in the middle of town along the R66 stretch and admire the lobby.

    ? Stop at the Painted Desert overlook exit 311 off I40.

    ? Stop in Winslow for old time R66 sake.

    ? Visit Phoenix

    ? Visit Scotsdale

    ? Visit Acmoa Pueblo

    Mon 22nd December: Sedona – Grand Canyon (2 hour drive)

    ? Pink Jeep Tours: Broken Arrow Tour

    ? Visit Flasgstaff (Walnut Canyon)

    ? North of Flagstaff on US89 take the loop via Sunset Crater Volcano and Wupatki.

    ? 2 Night Stay: Bright Angel Lodge

    ? See the sunset from rim viewpoint (or take Sunset Tour).

    ? Dinner at:

    o Yavapai Restaurant - www.enchantmentresort.com

    o Dahl %26amp; DiLuca Restaurant - www.dahl-diluca.com

    o Heartline Cafe - www.heartlinecafe.com

    o Troia%26#39;s Pizza, Pasta, Amore%26#39; - www.troias.com

    Tues 23rd December: Grand Canyon

    ? Walk down to the first rest stop (1 hour down and 2 up at a steady pace)

    o Do it first thing in morning then do the rim walk (unless you can do that when you get there with a bottle of wine)

    ? Walk to the rim for sunrise (or take Sunrise Tour).

    ? Breakfast at El Tovar Dining Room.

    ? Tour the Visitor Center at Canyon View Information Plaza (take the shuttle or walk).

    ? Walk to Mather Point; stroll along rim to Yavapai Observation Station.

    ? Walk or take the shuttle to the village, explore Historic Buildings (Pick up Walking Tour Brochure and other information at any lodge transportation desk).

    ? Lunch at Bright Angel Restaurant.

    ? Take Hermits Rest motorcoach tour (2 hrs).

    ? Stroll along the rim for sunset or dine early at the Arizona Room.

    ? Dinner at the Arizona Room.

    ? Enjoy a National Park Service evening program or simply stargaze at the dark canyon skies.

    Wed 24th December: Grand Canyon – Las Vegas (5 hour drive)

    ? Visit Williams

    ? Visit Seligman and see Hoover Dam

    ? Drop off car to Las Vegas McCarran International Airport

    ? Eat at The Cheescake Factory (at Caesars)

    Thurs 25th December: Las Vegas

    ? Christmas Day

    ? Eat at a buffet (Bellagio?)

    ? See free water show outside Bellagio (every 15 minutes)

    ? Go to the New York hotel and ride the rollercoaster inside

    ? Ride the rooftop rollercoaster at the hotel Strasophere (get the tickets that allow you to go back at night and take photos from the rooftop)

    ? Get off the strip and go downtown to Freemont Street (better at night)

    Fri 26th December: Las Vegas – San Francisco

    ? Boxing Day

    ? Shop in Caesar’s Palace and Bellagio (Abercrombie %26amp; Fitch at “Fashion Show Mall”)

    ? Skydiving?

    ? Visit Red Rock Canyon (30 mins outside Vegas)

    ? Visit Valley of Fire (1 hour 30 mins outside Vegas)

    ? Fly Southwest Airlines late afternoon

    Sat 27th December: San Francisco

    ? Visit Fishermans Wharf and Pier 39

    o See the Sea Lions that have inhabited the docks.

    ? Walk or bike across the Golden Gate Bridge.

    ? See the view from Fort Point

    ? Visit the Boudin Sourdough Bread Factory

    o Take the tour and eat the tastings at the end

    Sun 28th December: San Francisco

    ? Shop at Union Square

    ? Look around Haight and Ashbury

    ? Tour Alcatraz (Book ahead – sells out)

    Mon 29th December: San Francisco – Big Sur (3 hour drive)

    ? Pick up hire car

    ? Visit Napa Valley (wine tours)

    ? Visit Santa Cruz

    o Visit the boardwalk and ride the big dipper...it%26#39;s really old wooden roller coaster.

    ? Visit Monterey

    Tues 30th December: Big Sur – Santa Barbara (4.5 hour drive)

    ? Visit San Luis Obispo

    ? Visit Hearst Castle

    Wed 31st December: Santa Barbara – Los Angeles (2 hour drive)

    ? Visit Ventura

    ? NYE

    Thurs 1st December: Los Angeles

    ? Visit LA City Halls for unknown rooftop views

    Fri 2nd December: Los Angeles

    ? Pink Taco in LA (cool Mexican restaurant with great margherita%26#39;s) based at Century City shopping plaza - 10250 Santa Monica Blvd # 220.... pretty good shopping mall.

    ? See Santa Monica Beach and Venice Beach....

    Sat 3rd December: Los Angeles

    ? Visit Disneyland

    Sun 4th December: Los Angeles – San Diego (2 hour drive)

    ? Visit Palm Springs

    Mon 5th December: San Diego - Los Angeles (up to 4 hour drive)

    ? Drop off hire car

    ? Fly to Australia

    US Road Trip

    Your schedule from Santa Fe to Sedona makes me wonder...do you plan to hit Albuquerque, Acoma, Gallup, Winslow, Phoenix and Scottsdale all in one day?!?!

    The difficult part will be the enormous side trip down to Phoenix and Scottsdale. I%26#39;d skip them and concentrate on what you%26#39;ve already put on your list, although you really could bypass Albuquerque considering you%26#39;ll still have a long day ahead..stronly recommending a stop at La Posada for lunch in Winslow, and then heading on to Sedona via Flagstaff.

    US Road Trip

    And...Los Angeles to San Diego...via PALM SPRINGS??!! No, no...I%26#39;d just do the coastal highway ( Hwy 5 ) at about San Juan Capistrano and make a stop for seafood and scenery along the way. Lots of nice little places to stop and see on the coast.


    Amazing tips, all changed :)


    If you can squeeze it in, Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff is nice...if you are there after dark. They discovered Pluto there and even though it%26#39;s not really a planet anymore, that%26#39;s still a big deal.

    Enjoy your trip...it sounds amazing.


    And here%26#39;s the final plan... thanks again for all your help. It%26#39;s invaluable!

    Sat 13th December: London – Miami

    - Fly: London – Miami (arrive late afternoon)

    - Stay on south beach

    Sun 14th December: Miami

    - Possible Key West (Florida Keys) Day trip

    Mon 15th December: Miami

    - Explore Miami

    - See: Miami Heat vs Milwaukee Bucks (America Airlines Stadium)

    Tues 16th December: Miami

    - Possible Everglades Day trip

    Wed 17th December: Miami – Houston - Austin

    - Explore Miami

    - Fly late afternoon

    - Pick up hire car

    - Drive to Austin (3.5 Hours)

    Thurs 18th December: Austin

    - Visit Zilker Park for the giant Christmas tree, the trail of lights and the yule log

    - Visit the State Capitol

    - Visit 6th Street downtown for the bar district

    - I strongly suggest while in Austin you skip Sixth Street and make it to SoCo (South Congress) instead. The clientele is a little more upscale and the area is much more fun and much less seedy. Great bars, cafes, and shops. Sixth Street is a much younger crowd and lacks the character and ambiance of SoCo

    - Eat at Salt Lick BBQ (18001 FM 1826, Driftwood, Texas 78619). Follow South Lamar Blvd. to highway 290 West. At the ';Y'; in Oak Hill stay left, continuing on Highway 290 west towards Fredericksburg. At the third light, turn left onto FM 1826. Drive 13 miles to the Salt Lick.

    Fri 19th December: Austin – El Paso (8.5 hour drive)

    - Visit Fredericksburg

    - As approaching El Paso eat at: Cattleman%26#39;s Steakhouse at Indian Cliffs Ranch, Fabens, TX, United States?

    - Get off on Fabens exits and go North. 4.5 Miles North of I-10 from the Fabens Exit 49

    - Watch the sunset in El Paso

    - If you do end up in El Paso for sunset, exit Mesa Street in Downtown, turn right on Mesa, then turn right on Robinson and it will go up into the hills and become Rim Road. It%26#39;s the only really pretty part of the city, IMHO.

    Sat 20th December: El Paso - Albuquerque (4 hour drive - direct)

    - See White Sands National Monument

    - Explore Albuquerque

    Sun 21st December: Albuquerque – Sedona (5 hour drive)

    - Stop in Gallup for a cup of coffee at the El Rancho Hotelo in the middle of town along the R66 stretch and admire the lobby.

    - Stop at the Painted Desert overlook exit 311 off I40.

    - Stop at the Meteor Crater

    - Stop in Winslow for old time R66 sake.

    - Stop at La Posada for lunch in Winslow

    - Visit Acmoa Pueblo

    Mon 22nd December: Sedona – Grand Canyon (2 hour drive)

    - Pink Jeep Tours: Broken Arrow Tour

    - Visit Oak Creek Canyon-Walnut Canyon

    - North of Flagstaff on US89 take the loop via Sunset Crater Volcano and Wupatki.

    - Stay at Bright Angel Lodge

    - See the sunset from rim viewpoint (or take Sunset Tour).

    - Dinner at:

    - Yavapai Restaurant - www.enchantmentresort.com

    - Dahl %26amp; DiLuca Restaurant - www.dahl-diluca.com

    - Heartline Cafe - www.heartlinecafe.com

    - Troia%26#39;s Pizza, Pasta, Amore%26#39; - www.troias.com

    Tues 23rd December: Grand Canyon

    - Walk to the rim for sunrise (or take Sunrise Tour).

    - Breakfast at El Tovar Dining Room.

    - Walk down to the first rest stop (1 hour down and 2 up at a steady pace)

    - Do it first thing in morning then do the rim walk (unless you can do that when you get there with a bottle of wine)

    - Tour the Visitor Center at Canyon View Information Plaza (take the shuttle or walk).

    - Walk to Mather Point; stroll along rim to Yavapai Observation Station.

    - Walk or take the shuttle to the village, explore Historic Buildings (Pick up Walking Tour Brochure and other information at any lodge transportation desk).

    - Lunch at Bright Angel Restaurant.

    - Take Hermits Rest motorcoach tour (2 hrs).

    - Stroll along the rim for sunset or dine early at the Arizona Room.

    - Dinner at the Arizona Room.

    - Enjoy a National Park Service evening program or simply stargaze at the dark canyon skies.

    Wed 24th December: Grand Canyon – Las Vegas (5 hour drive)

    - Visit Seligman

    - Have a burger at Delgadillos Snow Cap

    - See Hoover Dam

    - Park at the Az side for free. Also fill your tank in Az.

    - Drop off hire car

    - Eat at The Cheescake Factory (at Caesars)

    Thurs 25th December: Las Vegas

    - Christmas Day

    - Eat at a buffet (Paris Hotel or Bellagio)

    - See free water show outside Bellagio (every 15 minutes)

    - Go to the New York hotel and ride the rollercoaster inside

    - Ride the rooftop rollercoaster at the hotel Strasophere (get the tickets that allow you to go back at night and take photos from the rooftop)

    - Get off the strip and cab downtown to Freemont Street (better at night)

    - The original Pink Taco restaurant (going to LA) is at the Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas, so you might check it out there. But the one in LA is supposed to be fun, too.

    Fri 26th December: Las Vegas – San Francisco

    - Boxing Day

    - Shop in Caesar’s Palace and Bellagio (Abercrombie %26amp; Fitch at “Fashion Show Mall”)

    - Skydiving?

    - Day Tours:

    - Visit Red Rock Canyon (30 mins outside Vegas)

    - Visit Valley of Fire (1 hour 30 mins outside Vegas)

    - Fly Southwest Airlines late afternoon

    Sat 27th December: San Francisco

    - Visit Fishermans Wharf and Pier 39

    - See the Sea Lions that have inhabited the docks.

    - See the view from Fort Point

    - Visit the Boudin Sourdough Bread Factory

    - Take the tour and eat the tastings at the end

    Sun 28th December: San Francisco

    - Shop at Union Square

    - Walk or bike across the Golden Gate Bridge.

    - If you rent bikes in SF you can bike to the Golden Gate Bridge and then turn south to Golden Gate Park. Bike through the Park (maybe stop at the DeYoung museum and go to the top of the observation deck) to the east end and that%26#39;s where the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood will be.

    - Look around Haight and Ashbury

    - Tour Alcatraz (Book ahead – sells out) - http://www.alcatrazcruises.com/

    Mon 29th December: San Francisco – Carmel (3 hour drive)

    - Pick up hire car

    - Wine Sampling: Paso Robles (www.pasowine.com)

    - Visit Santa Cruz

    - Visit the boardwalk (open till 5pm) and ride the big dipper...it%26#39;s really old wooden roller coaster.

    - Visit Monterey

    Tues 30th December: Carmel – Santa Barbara (4.5 hour drive)

    - Visit Hearst Castle

    - Book Hearst Castle in advance, http://www.hearstcastle.org

    - Visit San Luis Obispo

    - Wine Sampling: Santa Ynez Valley

    Wed 31st December: Santa Barbara – Los Angeles (2 hour drive)

    - Visit Ventura

    - NYE

    Thurs 1st December: Los Angeles

    -

    Fri 2nd December: Los Angeles

    - Pink Taco in LA (cool Mexican restaurant with great margherita%26#39;s) based at Century City shopping plaza - 10250 Santa Monica Blvd # 220.... pretty good shopping mall.

    - Visit LA City Halls for unknown rooftop views

    - See Santa Monica Beach and Venice Beach....

    Sat 3rd December: Los Angeles

    - Visit Disneyland

    Sun 4th December: Los Angeles – San Diego (2 hour drive)

    - Via Costal Highway 5

    - Visit San Juan Capistrano

    - Visit La Jolla

    Mon 5th December: San Diego - Los Angeles (up to 4 hour drive)

    - Drop off hire car

    - Fly to Australia late evening


    Here%26#39;s a couple of ideas for your NM to AZ portion:

    Sat 20th December: El Paso - Albuquerque via White Sand National Mon will be 5.5 hours of driving, plus time visiting the monument.

    While on the way to Albuquerque after White Sands, possibly stop at Bosque del Apache wildlife refuge, thousands of cranes and geese nest there. Incredible place. Also nearby is a small town, San Antonio, with a great green chile cheeseburger at the Owl Cafe!

    Once in Albuquerque visit the Old Town area and possibly Nob Hill, which has some Rt 66 type places. If you have time the Rattlesnake Museum is fun!

    Sun 21st December: Albuquerque – Sedona.

    Acoma Pueblo is just outside of Albuquerque, so you will stop here prior to reaching Gallup. You may want to check with them to see if they offer tours on a Sunday morning. http://sccc.acomaskycity.org/

    I love the El Rancho Hotel. Make sure you check out the huge map painted on the wall in the lobby. If you get there for lunch, maybe dine at Earls, food is ok but interesting place to visit.

    The Painted Desert overlook is ok, I prefer to visit the entire Petrified Forest Nat Park. I would do that over Meteor Crater. Winslow is before Meteor Crater.


    Thanks for that Casaazul!


    captain I hope you post a trip report!

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  • moving to santa fe -Best driving rout & favorite sights

    I am 23 moving to Santa Fe in January and am wondering where to go to meet people my age. I%26#39;ve never been and frankly do not know too much about the city. I will be working during the week at a gallery so i figure I will meet people through work but would like to know best area to live. Are there any great short term rentals you know of? Also my mom and I are driving from the east coast-any must see sights along the way and she will be here for a few days after the drive. Any favorite sights? We like the outdoors and would like to do some skiing and hiking. Is there too much snow for hiking and too little for skiing in Jan. Sorry lots of questions but we are in the dark!



    moving to santa fe -Best driving rout %26amp; favorite sights


    Well, I am not one of the people your age, so I%26#39;ll leave the ';in'; places in Santa Fe to residents of the ';City Different.'; You will certainly know you%26#39;re not in Boston any more however. ;-) There is no other city like Santa Fe, and there is no other state like New Mexico.





    I would attempt to recommend some sights to see between Boston, and Santa Fe, but I would need some more specific information as to which route you plan to take in between.





    The Santa Fe Ski Area, 16 miles from downtown Santa Fe, was supposed to open this Thanksgiving weekend, but postponed. We are receiving some rain and snow today however, so the ski area should be open by next weekend. You can get much of your desired hiking in, just by exploring the central, historic district of Santa Fe. Santa Fe is certainly ';walking-tour'; friendly, much like the many sites in the downtown area of Boston.





    I hope this sheds a little light on your ';darkness,'; but please get back to us with your planned route, and we%26#39;ll help with more recommendations.



    moving to santa fe -Best driving rout %26amp; favorite sights


    Santa Fe is called the City Different. If you are in the dark about our city, I would get researching ASAP!! Things move at a different pace here, much different than Boston.





    I%26#39;m way past my twenties. We have 2 4 year colleges in town, St John%26#39;s and College of Santa Fe. Also a community college. Most of the hang out spots are near the Plaza, Canyon Road or the Railyard area.





    Best areas to live depend on what you can afford, rentals are very expensive. Do not consider the Airport Road or SW part of town. Read the want ads at www.santafenewmexican.com for info. I would also read this newspaper site to see if you really want to move to our city.





    From Boston to Santa Fe sights depend on which route you are taking. I would consider heading to the Denver/Boulder Colorado area for a visit. Then drive south on I25 to Santa Fe. Another option would be to drive through the Colorado Rockies, but just depends on what kind of weather is happening.





    Once here, plenty of hiking, biking, skiing etc. Had some snow this holiday weekend, so the ski area should open soon.




    Update on my driving plan. We are leaving Boston Jan.20th -still need suggestions! We are traveling south from Boston through Philly to visit friends -we are trying to avoid snowstorms-and will spend about a week driving through maybe North Carolina, Tenn. Ark. and Texas but nothing is definite. We have never been south so we thought it would be fun to stop in either Memphis or Nashville. And my mom will need to spend a week in Santa Fe once we arrive. My job begins Feb 1st. So again any suggestions for a b%26amp;b for a week or a hotel that is not too expensive. We were hoping to be near the museums And what must sees in the surrounding area this time of year.We are use to cold and snow!? Will be there enough time for a day of skiing in Taos or is skiing in Santa Fe fun enough.




    Sorry I can%26#39;t help with the trip to Santa Fe as I have never driven across the country.





    You will find our public transportation to be minimal compared to Boston, but we have a nice city bus service and soon our commuter rail to Albuquerque will open.





    Skiing at Ski Santa Fe can be awesome if we have snow. Just had a snow storm today, the mountain looked like it got lots of snow. It is a fun mountain to ski according to my co-workers (I don%26#39;t ski anymore)





    I would look into a b%26amp;b with possibly a kitchen. Check on www.santafe.org and also there have been a few posts recently with recommendations for casita rentals. A good hotel near the plaza is Inn of the Governors.




    You%26#39;re 23 maybe if you told me what kind of stuff your into I can give you some more info about where to go to hang out and or meet people. There are some great places to go snowboarding and skiing in New Mexico. Toas has great skiing.




    Corabean, you ask if there are favorite sights on the drive from Boston to Santa Fe? My first thought was it would take volumes to answer that! Surely there are things you have always wanted to see in this country??





    Post your route in more detail for better advice. If you are interested in Tenneessee, post on that forum.





    You have wonderful adventures ahead of you! Best luck in all regards.




    hi



    well you will be in for a little culture shock



    we moved here from the east coast 14 years ago, while i had visited many times, living in the southwest is so so different than living in the east



    we drove out end of december arriving here jan 1st there really wasn%26#39;t much to see or do along the way, we came the southern route I-40, a lot of trucks thats for sure, once you arrive in the state plan to spend some time in albuquerque, things there are a lot cheaper than in santa fe



    good luck, have a safe trip across country




    re: sights along the way





    If you have your route planned, you can go to the TA home page and type in each city in the search box and click ';Things to Do.';





    Have you already been to Washington DC? If not, the memorials, Smithsonian, Library of Congress would certainly be on my must see list of things along your route.





    If you are going the southern route you will likely go through Oklahoma City and I would recommend see the National Cowboy Hall of Fame and Western Heritage Museum as well as the Oklahoma City National Memorial.





    The thing I remember most about my first trip to Santa Fe is the Loretto Chapel, so I%26#39;d have to recommend that as something for you and your mom to see.




    I know-it will be really wierd. I actually was in Arizona over Chrisrtmas and did some hiking in the desert and was blown away by the Dr. Suess-like cactus I have never seen anything like it It%26#39;s odd not seeing trees and having alot of open flat space but everyone says Santa Fe is beautiful and great so i am getting really excited. I am also excited about skiing in Taos I heard they got alot of snow. And hope to explore all the surrounding areas!




    I think we arre driving through Virginia- Roanoake but to go to T.A. things to do in each city is a great idea that might help us plan our route better. Neither of us have been to Tenn or Ok.or Texas so this will be quite an adventure.We may stop in Graceland and the cowboy museum sounds fun and when we get to Santa Fe we are going to that spa I am sure we will be a little tense by then driving with my mom for 5-6 days lots of books on Tape will defintely take in all the local sights. I think we are staying at the Inn of the Govenors -a good promotion or we may rent a Casita the price is around the same- any thoughts on this.We are leaning toward the hotel because after my mom leaves I will probably not eat out so much!

    lodging in chama, nm

    Has anyone stayed at Corkins Lodge. What cabin rentals are the best?



    lodging in chama, nm


    I hesitate to answer your query, because it has been several years since my family stayed at Corkin%26#39;s Lodge. I was frankly amazed that ';nothing'; comes up on TripAdvisor.com%26#39;s search engine, because Corkin%26#39;s has been around for years at the base of Brazos Peak.





    I can only say that if you are seeking to ';get away,'; this is the place. As far as I know, they still do not have televisions! But it does have semi-wild deer, waundering amongst the cabins, as well as fishing, hiking, and peace and quiet. The Cumbres - Toltec Narrow Gauge Railroad, in nearby Chama is also a plus.





    I hope that you will receive some responses from more recent guests, and that they will also post some reviews here on TripAdvisor.com.





    Even my Google-ing proved fruitless! It%26#39;s almost as if they want to keep their presence ';secret.'; :-)



    lodging in chama, nm


    Thank you for the information.




    How secret is a website?





    http://www.corkinslodge.com/




    Yes, I stay there every late September or early October. Love it!!! Bring your own food, although they opened a new grocery store. Last year I had to buy groceries before arriving because their only store had been destroyed by a snow storm. Corkins Lodge is incredible. My husband fishes all day and I sit outside, feed deer and cross-stitch all day. At night we start a fire and totally relax. No tv, no cell phone, your own your own. If solitude is what you want you got it. It would be wonderful for a family to play games, hike and other stuff but with no tV your interacting. I always stay at the Ponderosa cabin but they were building new cabins last October while there. We stay a whole week each year.




    This information is a big help. Thank you.

    Bandalier

    Would Bandalier be enjoyable in January in the cold, or would the trails be snow covered and icy? Also, we would be travelling with a 7 month old in a pack. When I look at pictures I see ladders and stuff. We are pretty avid hikers, but would this be appropirate? Thanks for the help!



    Bandalier


    Yes and No!! It%26#39;s unpredictable.





    I would go to Bandalier anyway. It is a magical place. If the day is Sunny (even if cold) it will be good. The section with the ladders will probably be clear of snow and ice. The hiking trails will not be cleared unless the snow melts it.





    I would dress for the weather, bring a picnic and a thermos of Hot Chocolate and/or coffee.





    Since you are in ABQ, choose your day carefully. Avoid a day when snow predicted.





    Have fun!



    Bandalier


    One of the things that immediately strikes one who visits ancient ruins is how carefully the site to build the living structures on was chosen.





    I%26#39;ve visited dozens of Pueblan and Anasazi ruins throughout the Southwest and nearly all of them face south or on cliff faces that get some sun during the day. This was probably because it is a lot harder to stay warm in the winter than it is to cool off in the summer.





    The main ';trail'; at Bandelier is paved for much of its length to provide handicap accessibility and all the ladders you are seeing are optional.





    The ';Falls Trail'; is beautiful but is situated on the south edge of the canyon, so it receives little sun because of the high cliff wall behind it. I%26#39;ve found it to be kind of icy and snow covered for much of the winter and wouldn%26#39;t recommend it for your particular circumstances despite its beauty.





    The Jemez Mts. and Los Alamos area just got a real good dumping of snow the last two days and the park was actually closed today. It is one of the only times I%26#39;ve seen this happen in the five years of living less than a half hour away and being a very regular hiker there.





    The Tsankawi unit is very worth seeing, but it has a few unavoidable ladders. The trail clears up after just a day or two of moderate temperatures and sunshine due to its exposed south facing nature.





    Hope any of this helps.

    What's it like to live in Socorro?

    Can any one tell me what it is like to live in Socoro? The price of housing? Weather? If you like living there?



    Thanks,



    Donna



    What's it like to live in Socorro?


    Sad. Bleak. Desperate.




    Actually I haven%26#39;t lived in Socorro, but live in the same county. I%26#39;m not sure what you%26#39;re planning to do in Socorro or why you%26#39;re thinking of moving there, but the times I%26#39;ve spent there have not endeared me to it.



    Maybe there are parts of town that I don%26#39;t know about, but generally it%26#39;s a predominately low-income little burg in the middle of the desert. I know that several people live in my neighborhood and commute an hour each way to work in Socorro so that they don%26#39;t have to live there.



    I have not been to the area around the University, so maybe things are better there. Maybe.



    Weather -- hot and dry most of the year. Cold-ish in the winter.



    Sorry not to be more upbeat about Socorro.



    What's it like to live in Socorro?


    socoro huh. i went to school in las cruces. socoro is in between las cruces and albuquerque. i think id probably think twice before id move there, virtually nothing to do, las cruces is a pretty cool little town. and of course albuquerque is a fairly large city. unless your job is there, i dont really recomend it, although you might love it who knows.




    Gee -- You sure got a lot of negativity! I imagine you%26#39;ve moved on!





    I moved my entire family to Socorro from the San Francisco Bay Area in 2002. How%26#39;s that for a change? Depending on what you want, Socorro can



    be a great place to live. There actually IS a lot to do in town, mostly associated with the university. There is a strong performing arts series, a lot of local musicians and artists and some decent restaurants.





    Price of housing is great. It%26#39;s actually started going up, but we bought 4000 sf on an acre in the country but 10 mins from town for $200K. That%26#39;s probably about 1/2 of what Albuquerque is costing these days. If you want to live really inexpensively, there are still a lot of decent places in the low 100%26#39;s.





    Socorro offers rural living. You have to want that. It%26#39;s different. Young people often don%26#39;t like it, but if you%26#39;ve spent 30 or 40 years in major cities, it can be really refreshing!





    When you need an urban fix, it takes 60 minutes to get to Albuquerque.





    I can talk about what%26#39;s wrong with the town -- but you got a lot of negativity ... mostly from people who didn%26#39;t know anything. Socorro is certainly not ';cool'; or ';trendy';. That%26#39;s why it%26#39;s cheap!




    [tried to post this a few months ago but had trouble with my forum account]





    The first couple of reviews are definitely proof that people who haven%26#39;t lived in a place shouldn%26#39;t comment on what it%26#39;s like to live there!





    We%26#39;ve lived in Socorro for nearly 16 years, and we love it. Of course it has its disadvantages - mainly conveniences you%26#39;d miss in any small town - but overall it is a very pleasant place to live. Keep in mind that it is a university town, so there are community-college offerings for those who are interested, and the Performing Arts Series gets some amazing talent. There is also a broad scientific community (NRAO and various NMTech departments) and a thriving artistic community covering a wide range of media, including music. Numerous events are scheduled throughout the year (Family Arts Party, Fat Tire Fiesta, Festival of the Cranes, Star Party, etc. etc.) and there are plenty of outdoor activities within 1-2 hours%26#39; drive. So unless you%26#39;re completely sessile, you won%26#39;t lack for things to keep you busy.





    Public schools are a bit below average, but good students do well despite that: every year Socorro%26#39;s schools manage to compete surprisingly well against much larger facilities in events such as Science Olympiad etc. There is a charter school for K-8 as well as the regular schools. Housing prices are lower than ABQ despite a mini-boom in the last 5 years due to new facilities opening at NMTech.





    It is only an hour%26#39;s drive from Albuquerque, which gives easy access to stores both general and specialized, additional cultural events (remember UNM is the state%26#39;s largest university) and of course the ABQ airport which is well connected to major airlines%26#39; hubs.





    Socorro often makes a bad first impression, since its main street looks like the fast-food/cheap-hotel strip you find just about everywhere you pull off a rural U.S. interstate, and there are certainly areas of town which are very run down. But like most places, when you look beyond that, you find many good things that, in the opinion of most people who live here, more than compensate for its shortcomings.





    Do some research on the Web (don%26#39;t get it confused with Socorro, Texas) so that you go into a move with your eyes open, but don%26#39;t be put off by uninformed negative reviews either. Socorro Chamber of Commerce Web site is at http://www.socorro-nm.com/, and many residents have Web sites. Local newspaper is at http://www.dchieftain.com/




    Another positive message from me. I knew when I moved there many years ago that a small town could be both good and bad. Newly divorced, I wanted to raise my children in a small town. Socorro was very good to us. The kids did well in school and I loved working there. My two main jobs were at the local supermarket where you meet a lot of nice people and at the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. There are many charitable events as well as art and music. The dancing was fun also. There are many types of jobs. It depends on what career you are in. From scientific fields to dishwashers and grocery clerks, from teachers to property owners etc. Oh yeah, I met and married my husband and we have been married for over 20 years!! Wonderful people in Socorro!!




    I %26#39;d like to add a few positive items about Socorro. I%26#39;ve lived in the area for 25 years and have come to love it, warts and all. If you want a small-town atmosphere with good weather (except spring winds), a friendly college with open doors for locals, a superb public library, a world-renowned wildlife refuge just down the road, good mountain hiking/biking trails fifteen minutes west, reasonable housing prices, beautiful clear skies, and wonderful friendly people from all over the world, then you will be happy in our part of the state. Socorro is within 75 miles of almost anything you could want in Albuquerque, yet you won%26#39;t have to deal with noise and traffic conjestion around here. I have met more than a few people who have moved here specifically to retire - fortunately we have not yet become gentrified.




    We moved here 3 years ago (to retire). Socorro has all the advantages of a well-educated community which is small enough for people to know each other but large enough to avoid the ';cabin feavor'; which sometimes spoils life. It is inexpensive (by East and West coast standards). The weather is beautiful 90% of the time. (If you like cold you can go to the mountains and ski!) And outdoor activities are always available. We had planned on being ';sunbirds'; but going N for the summer was no fun at all!




    i,m looking to relocate and was wondering if their are any employement opportunities and housing for a single man in mid forties. job wise i am capable of just about anything but not a scientist or teacher. housing something small doesnt have to be fancy, any reply to whether this would be available would be apperciated.




    Although this is a travel forum... Socorro NM would not be a great place to move to if you need to make a living. Look at Albuquerque or Las Cruces.




    Hello JazziArtist -- I can be a bit more positive than the lady from Santa Fe. From a 40,000 foot level she%26#39;s not wrong. There is far more corporate employment in Santa Fe and Albuquerque, but the cost of living is also much higher. You are correct to realize that some of the best jobs in town are at the University or the several civilian and military labs, but there is still a need for smart generalists willing to work hard. We do not have enough plumbers/ electricians/ contractors, for example. NM Tech has staff jobs in finance and operations. They are hard to land, but I can tell you as a Tech employee myself that hard-working, responsible types are always welcome -- and there is not a surplus.





    Albuquerque is close enough that you could land in Socorro and rent an inexpensive place and work in Albuquerque if that was the first place you could find a job.

    Driving conditions to Taos Ski Valley

    We are heading up to Taos for a day or two after visiting family in Albuquerque. We will have a rental car---and are just wondering if your average rental car with decent front wheel drive will do the trick (barring any significant snowfall). I have been to Taos in the past, and remember the roads in town to be relatively flat---but can%26#39;t remember the trip out to the ski areas (either Taos or Angel Fire) at all!! Any help is appreciated...

    Driving conditions to Taos Ski Valley

    2WD should be just fine...barring any significant snowfall...and we have had a bunch of snow this year.

    Keep an eye on the weather forecast. Right now we have knee deep snow down here at the base of the mountain, and over 7 feet up above!

    Have fun!

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    are there any houses, apts. for rent, in the Chama area, for a 6 mo. to 1 year rental?



    yearly rentals


    Are you still looking for a home to rent in Chama??



    yearly rentals


    10-17-08



    My wife and I are looking to RENT in CHAMA for the NICEST part of NEXT summer.



    Ed and Janie Johnson




    I visit Chama every year and intend on possibly retiring there. Anyway, there is a site with United Country that has homes available for rent. How, on the City Forum under Chama, there is a lady who has a house she wants to lease in Chama West on 10 acres. She also listed it on Craig%26#39;s list. Good Luck, if you want me to find her email me. Debbie


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  • ElMesan lodge?

    Any idea of what its like? It looks like its right in town on the hwy? And they have tent camping too? Seems weird.





    ElMesan lodge?


    I%26#39;ll look it up. Have seen lodging with camping on the hightway practically in the center of town from the southern end of Chama. I beleive if the one I am thinking the Chama River goes right thought the campground. The lodging looks like motel style. Your not going to get fancy in Chama unless you go to the Timbers which is about 1000 a night. I go to Corkins which are log cabins with kitchens.

    Hotels for Fiery Foods show in February 2009?

    Any hotel suggestions near the Sandia Resort and Casino that don%26#39;t cost that much? Do most hotels get booked up during that weekend?



    Hotels for Fiery Foods show in February 2009?


    There are several less expensive motel/hotels at the far north end of Albuquerque off I-25. The Sandia Casino %26amp; Resort is located just east of I-25 from the Tramway Blvd. exit.





    The hostelries mentioned below would all be within a mile or two of the casino Joellyn.





    Motel 6 - 8510 Pan American Fwy NE (the access road on the east side of I-25). This is a relatively new motel.





    Studio 6 - 4441 Osuna (Osuna Exit, west from I-25) Motel 6%26#39;s ';suites'; hotels.





    Hampton Inn Albuquerque North, 5101 Ellison (Ellison/San Antonio exit from I-25, on west side of the interstate)





    Howard Johnson Express Inn North - 7630 Pan American Fwy NE





    La Quinta Inn %26amp; Suites Northeast - 7439 Pan American Fwy NE





    There are also a Ramada Inn Express, and Holiday Inn Express, just west of I-25 on Alameda...they would be the two closest to the Sandia C%26amp;R on Tramway...Alameda Blvd. is the first exit south of Tramway from I-25.





    I could not say how big a draw the Fiery Foods will be vis-a-vis hotel bookage, but it is a very popular event in Albuquerque. If you book early, you should not have a problem in February. Enjoy your visit, and especially enjoy our fiery, New Mexican cuisine.

    Fun and Interesting Activities??

    I have been to Angel Fire about 3 times, and mostly we skiied. I am looking for something really cool to do this time. We will be there for the Christmas holiday.





    One year when staying in WinterPark, we took a sleigh ride thru the forest and then ended up at a neat old place where they fed us and we had some lively entertainment..a lady playing a ';warshboard'; and fiddle, and singing.





    The ';restaurant'; was actually an old barn and everyone sat at individual tables in the stalls..(Yes, they were very clean!) It was so neat. I%26#39;d like to try to find something like that while in Angel Fire...or near Angel Fire. I did find an ATV or horseback ride package with dinner, but not sure they do that in December.





    Anyone been to anything fun like this, or know of anything at all?



    Thanks!



    Fun and Interesting Activities??


    Angel Fire sleigh-rides at:



    www.angelfire.com/winter/sleigh-rides.cfm





    Maybe a play in an old winery down at Black Lake? (south of Angel Fire)



    angelfirechamber.org/WebCal/wc00200812.html



    Fun and Interesting Activities??


    Sorry...in a rush. Make that...





    www.angelfirenm.com/winter/sleigh-rides.cfm




    Thank you so much! I looked for a long time on the internet, but didn%26#39;t find anything...goes to show my research skills aren%26#39;t so good.





    I will call the number tomorrow and check it out..





    Thanks so much!!




    We are going to Angel Fire the end of January %26amp; are interested in doing a sleigh ride also %26amp; maybe a snowmobile trio. Did you take a sleigh ride? If so, which company did you use %26amp; was it worth it? Any information you can give will be greatly appreciated.



    thank you in advance




    Well...let me tell ya..our whole trip was a ';two thumbs up';..it was great. However, we did run into some ';hick-ups'; here and there, but mostly weather related so, no ones fault %26#39;cept Mother Nature. It still did not deter our wonderful vacation.



    Skiing was awesome, the people are great, and the area is beautiful.



    We did finally manage to do the dinner sleigh ride. This fell on the heels of one of our mishaps while there. However, when we did get to go, it was really really cold. They do provide blankets, which help, but it was windy, and almost nothing kills that kinda cold. The dinner was good and the hot chocolate was yummy. The accomodations are VERY rustic and you eat off of styrofoam plates and plastic forks/knives. Which didn%26#39;t bother us, but I am just letting you know. I am not sure it was totally worth the $75 per person (adult) we paid, but, it was fun. I think if we were to go at a different time of the year, it could have been better. When I booked it, we were told that we would go for a sleigh ride thru the Carson Nat%26#39;l Forest...that did not happen. We were in the sleigh for about 30 min and then out at the tents where the food is.



    There had been tons of snow falling for a few days, and I know it is very difficult to get those sleighs in and out of the snow, so I guess that is why we didn%26#39;t go thru there. However, maybe they don%26#39;t tour thru there for the dinner ride...just the sleigh ride. I don%26#39;t know. Doesn%26#39;t matter now. The people that work and run the outfit are AWESOME people and a lot of fun.



    We did not go snowmobiling, but next time we will.



    We booked thru Roadrunner Horseback Tours..or something like that. We booked ahead of time being that we wanted Christmas night and they fill that one up quickly. However, next time, I would just wait and call when I got there.



    Good luck. I hope you have as great of a time as we did.




    OH, also, listen up....





    MAKE SURE YOU HAVE REAL CHAINS FOR YOUR VEHICLE!!!





    We had those cable type chains, which have worked in the past, but not this time!





    If you don%26#39;t have 4-wheel drive, get chains. Even the locals who have 4-wheel drive had chains. (not all of them, of course, but many did..if they were driving on icy/snowy roads.)

    Drive from Santa Fe

    How is the road from Santa Fe to Chama? I would like to drive there but I fear mountainous roads especially if they are very high and close to the edge of a precipice. I don%26#39;t mind curvy or hilly roads, but I just would like to know what I am in for!

    Drive from Santa Fe

    Though it%26#39;s been almost 8 years since I last made the trip, I don%26#39;t recall the drive from Santa Fe to Chama being especially extreme. Now, if you are afraid of mountainous roads with hairpin turns, there are a few such around here near Silver City that will turn your hair white for you!

    Drive from Santa Fe

    The drive from Santa Fe to Chama is very mild... maybe only one small section (1 mile at most) that goes up a big hill. Nothing like mountain passes.

    You will be just fine. DOn%26#39;t worry and just enjoy!


    Thanks for the info. And I%26#39;ll have to look up Silver City on the map and be sure to stay away from it!

    Two more questions: How is the road from Chama to Taos, and what about the High Road from Santa Fe to Taos?


    Hwy 84 Santa Fe to Chama is primarily laid out among the valleys. Chama to Taos along Hwy 64 will take you over a mountain pass, which will include some drop offs along the roadway. However, 64 is wide and well maintained with sweeping corners and excellent site lines. It%26#39;s my favorite motorcycle road in NM, and the scenery is wonderful.

    Yesterday I rode the High Road from Santa Fe to Penasco for lunch at Sugar Nymphs Bistro (highly recommended). This road was recently improved in the section near Cordova, but is tighter, narrower and has a few more drop-offs nearer the roadway than 64. However, this is hardly like driving Trail Ridge in CO, or other roadways in the high mountains of the world. There are shoulders and the road is well marked. Along the way, you%26#39;ll get a real flavor of northern NM, with it%26#39;s small towns and villages.

    As always, be aware of animals and be watchful of other drivers. I hope you enjoy your stay, and welcome to our state!


    Thank you so much for your specific and detailed reply. It really is a help. I will gather my courage and try those roads. It really sounds beautiful and I don%26#39;t want to miss out on these sights during my visit to NM.


    Very easy, not hilly, ok if it snows. I have taken it in late fall early winter many times. Now, I wouldn%26#39;t take that past from Taos to Chama in the winter....although simply beautiful.

    The Santa Fe to Chama is very beautiful too. Do it.

    Debbie


    Thanks for the info. I was there in June and drove the rode from Santa Fe to Chama. It was great...I loved it. I also did the entire Enchanted Circle Road from Taos. That was much more of a challenge especially that there was a rare downpour and I was afraid of a rock slide but it worked out fine and I am glad I did it. The scenery was wonderful and I had such a feeling of freedom on those roads. I drove both of those roads alone and feel much more confidence now in driving other more challenging roads. (Although I don%26#39;t think I am quite ready for Silver City yet!)


    I did the enchanted circle in too this last October and enjoyed it too. It snowed but nothing that scared me. Did you enjoy the town of Red River. I love that town almost as much as Chama. We%26#39;re thinking of retiring in the Chama area. I am glad you enjoyed your trip. Debbie


    Yes, I think it would be a very nice place to retire. The whole area is majestic. I stopped at the Vietnam Memorial on my way around the Enchanted Circle. It was very worthwhile and thought-provoking.

    Good luck!

    Marilyn

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    are there any vets in algodonas to take our dog to



    dogs


    Excuse me for asking, but are you referring to the town of Algodones in New Mexico (USA), or do you mean the town of Los Algodones in the country of Mexico near Yuma, AZ? You posted this in the Algodones New Mexico forum; a lot of people get these mixed up, so I thought I%26#39;d ask.



    dogs


    thanks.yes i posted in wrong spot

    early evening drink & music??

    looking for easy going, not singles bar but bar/music place...a drink and relax,



    maybe after skiing? early evening....suggestions?? in the hotels? or wherever?



    early evening drink %26amp; music??


    Hi,



    I spent Xmas week in Santa Fe and noticed that the famous La Fonda Hotel had nightly music starting at 7:30 in the bar in the lobby. I read unline that soon they will be closing their large restaurant for several months for an ';overhaul';, but I wouldn%26#39;t think this would interfere with the bar%26#39;s operation.



    If you GOOGLE, ';La Fiesta Lounge %26amp; Bell Tower Bar';.... there is a place to click for nightly schedule. I did notice that it hadn%26#39;t changed for January though.



    If you happen to be in Santa Fe on a Friday, you can pick up a daily newpaper that has the weekly entertainment section in it (Friday%26#39;s only).





    Have a wonderful time!



    early evening drink %26amp; music??


    thanks....just the kind of thing I was looking for..



    happy new year!



    tsw




    You might try Vanessies. It does draw an older crowd.





    http://www.vanessiesantafe.com/pianobar.htm




    We rarely go out, so I won%26#39;t be much help. We enjoy the bar at Hotel Santa Fe where Ronald Roybal plays. (Spanish guitar and Indian flute). Also went to La Fonda bar a few weeks ago, nice.





    Also check Railyard, Cowgirls, Del Charro, El Farol, Coyote Cafe, though I%26#39;m not sure on live music, but all are fun.





    Enjoy your trip.




    My avatar may say South Africa, but that is just part of a life that includes the last 20 years in Santa Fe. Vanessie%26#39;s is great for dining +relaxing music. El Farol is good for a real bar with different kinds of music each night. The hotels mentioned are quite different: La Fonda is also a real bar, with dancing, too. The others are warmer, more relaxed.


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  • Planning A trip In February...need advice

    We are planning on renting a home in Taos for one week in February with our two children, ages 6 and 10. We are a family who have never experienced snow. Could anyone give us advice...snow conditions in late Feb. where to ski and learn how, what to bring, and any other ';snow advice'; for us? Thank you!



    Planning A trip In February...need advice


    You should first dcide where to ski. You will choose between Red River, Angel Fire and Taos. All have pluses and minuses, all have good schools.



    If you decide on Taos (and please do not fall into the trap that Taos is only for experts, they have one of the best schools in the country and teach 3 year olds) you then need to decide if you will stay at a lower elevation, where there are more restaurants and other things to do,or up at the slopes. Staying down by the town of Taos also allows you to get to Angel Fire and Red River more easily if you want a change of pace.



    Expect plenty of snow.



    Have Fun!!



    Planning A trip In February...need advice


    Taos has so much to see, including Taos Pueblo, which hasn%26#39;t changed that much since Coronado%26#39;s men visited it in 1541. There are numerous historical places (Martinez Hacienda, Kit Carson%26#39;s home, St. Francis de Asis church in neighboring Rancho de Taos, to name a few.) Taos is also famous for it%26#39;s artists/art-history, and there are several excellent galleries.





    It sounds like you may be novices in skiing, so I%26#39;d advise you enjoy Taos, and the Taos Ski Valley. Taos Ski Valley does have excellent beginner lessons, and slopes, it%26#39;s fame however comes from it also having (arguably) more runs for expert skiers than any other ski area in New Mexico.





    I do not know other things to do in Taos that would especially appeal to 6 and 10 year olds. Hopefully, you%26#39;ll get some more input on that aspect.





    If you%26#39;d care to spend a day in Albuquerque%26#39;s Old Town area, we have an Expo science museum with hands on activities for youngsters, plus the New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science, with dinosaurs, walks through a volcano, a planetarium, and the big IMAX theater screen showing diverse subject matter. Both museums are on Mountain Road, which runs along the northern edge of Old Town. Being kids, they might also enjoy the Rattlesnake Museum in Old Town. :-) Taos is about 2 1/2 hours from Albuquerque.





    Santa Fe is unique in so many ways also. Hopefully, you can take in Albuquerque, and Santa Fe, and confine your skiing to Taos.




    Here are information sources that may help you in your planning.





    Taos:



    www.taosguide.org





    Taos Ski Valley:



    http://www.skitaos.org/





    Santa Fe:



    www.santafe.org





    Albuquerque:



    www.itsatrip.org

    Angel Fire, NM Roadrunner Tours

    We are going to Angel Fire the weekend of January 24, 2009. Has anyone used the Roadrunner Tours? We are wanting to take a sleigh ride. They have the rides with or without a meal. Has anyone gone on any of the rides with a meal?



    Angel Fire, NM Roadrunner Tours


    I have looked, and looked for ';experiences'; using Roadrunner Tours for sleigh rides in Angel Fire, and not found one. This ';blog'; has a comment about the company for horse rides, and I do know they%26#39;ve been around for quite a while in the Angel Fire area, and have a good reputation.





    angelfireblog.com/outdoor-sports/…





    There is plenty of fresh new snow in Angel Fire, so sleigh rides should be a great this winter. I don%26#39;t know if you are also doing any skiing, but you can check on their daily conditions at: www.skinewmexico.com





    Have fun, and be safe!

    Chama to Osier or Antonito to Osier, more scenic?

    Does anyone know which train ride is more scenic? We would like to take a one day trip on the train, but I%26#39;m wondering if we should drive to Chama, or to Antonito. Any ideas?

    Chama to Osier or Antonito to Osier, more scenic?

    I have the exact same question. Any answers out there?

    Chama to Osier or Antonito to Osier, more scenic?

    I won%26#39;t be of too much help.. but I think the town of Chama is much more scenic and is right in the mountains.

    Antonito is in a valley, more flat, less trees and possibly longer to get to the mountains on the train.

    If you take the full day trip, you will be traveling on the same track between both towns and taking a bus back.

    Visit www.cumbrestoltec.com/scenery


    It does not matter which location you drive to as a bus will take you back to your starting point. However, as a many time rider on the RR, I would recommend first time riders start from Antonito. The reason is that you begin in the high desert with sage and sand and climb into Pondersoa pine and then fir and aspen. You see the same scenery going the other way, but hour trip through the desert is anti-climatic after the high country peaks.


    [i]Does anyone know which train ride is more scenic? [/i]

    I should add that if you are taking the train only to the midpoint at Osier and returning the same way, you should do the Chama-Osier trip as you miss the high bridges Antonito-Osier (but you have two tunnels and the track is on the edge of a deep gorge!). The best bet is to do the entire route or schedule a return trip to do the other half!


    If it%26#39;s just a question of which ';half,'; roughly speaking, is the most scenic per mile, the answer is Chama to Osier. Higher mountains...gorgeous in the fall especially!


    Doesn%26#39;t matter. I do it every year. Most of the time I take the bus to Antonito because that is real early in the morning leaving Chama and is beautiful then in Antonito we take the train back to Chama where we always stay. I%26#39;ve met some of the most wonderful people on both the bus and train and love the food stop 1/2 way at Osier. Boy it is hard to hike at that alitude though....


    As was said before, if you are taking the full ride on the train, and returning by motorcoach, the Antonito to Chama train would probably be less anti-climactic starting east to west, as the scenery improves dramatically once in the mountains. The ';full'; ride to Chama, and motorcoach back takes 7 hours, and 25 minutes.

    ';If'; however, time is a consideration, you can take the Chama train to Osier, and return to Chama via train, in 5 hours, and 55 minutes.


    miozanoHouston,

    I%26#39;m happy to throw my two cents here as I took the full ride from Antonito to Chama in mid-October this past fall.

    Its all gorgeous, and would recommend the full ride starting in either town. The half way trip to Osier and then back to Chama seems too redundant to me.

    With the changing scenery and climb up from the flatter plateau near Antonito into the high elevations and all the engineering that was required to build the many switchbacks was really some of the most interesting aspects of the entire trip for me.

    We saw several herds of antelope, a couple bald eagles, some coyotes, etc... in the transition zone between the plateau near Antonito and the higher elevations.

    Another consideration is your base starting point. We live just under a 1/2 hour northwest of downtown Santa Fe and found the drive from our place to Antonito versus Chama a little shorter, very direct and quite pretty. Not that the drive to Chama from our place isn%26#39;t spectacular also, but in order to be at the depot before 10:00am, we were looking for the most direct route to be sure we got there in time.

    A couple of practical tips. Good full coverage sunglasses and/or not wearing contact lenses if you intend to spend some time on the open air observation car is a good idea. The coal fired engine throws a fair amount of soot and particulate into the air and much of it settles towards the rear of the train.

    I didn%26#39;t find the actual seats very comfortable and spent nearly all my time out in the flatbed observation car or in the little areas between the regular cars like many others did.

    The last thing I%26#39;d add is not to raise your expectations on the quality of the lunch you%26#39;ll be fed in Osier. Think of that stop as more of a photo and leg stretching opportunity than some gourmet dining experience. Not bad, but IMHO, maybe a notch slightly above high school cafeteria quality.

    The motorcoach bus ride back to our car in Antonito from Chama took a very beautiful route and was a great way to talk with other folks and relax before the 2 hour drive home.

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  • VLA: What else is there to see near VLA (Socorro)???

    We are doing a road trip starting from Albuquerque. Our first stop in the VLA. The second thing I want to see is the Acoma Pueblo, which is closer to Grants.





    Looking at the map, we will be going a LONG ways out of the way to see the VLA. That would be fine if there was something else to see or do.





    Also, the shortest way to get from the VLA to Acoma Pueblo is to basically go back the way we came towards Albuquerque. Retracing our steps makes the detour for VLA that much more obvious.





    I ponderded going west on highway 60 from the VLA, and then up highway 117. That would keep us from retracing our steps, but I can%26#39;t find any indication of anything to see or do along that route. So, it would just be a longer, slower loop with no benefit.





    I%26#39;m stumped!





    After Acoma Pueblo, we will be heading NW towards Mesa Verde in Colorado.





    Any help would be appreciated!





    VLA: What else is there to see near VLA (Socorro)???


    The VLA is an interesting place, worth the drive. There are a few things to do if you head west from VLA. Pie Town for lunch or just pie, El Malpais National Monument lava flow area, and even over to El Morro National Monument. Also maybe a visit to NM Tech University in Socorro.



    VLA: What else is there to see near VLA (Socorro)???


    If you are doing your trip over Winter, I%26#39;d recommend the Bosque del Apache National Wildlife Refuge, about 20 miles south of Socorro. Great place to watch the thousands of snow geese, sandhill cranes, ducks, etc. arrive before sunset, and depart the marshes at dawn.





    You%26#39;d want to arrive at the Bosque about 3:00pm (there is a 15-mile loop road on good gravel), and return the following morning for the best show by 6:30am. Motels in Socorro. The most used by birders is the Motel 6, at the south end of town, and ';immediately'; accessible to I-25 south.





    If you%26#39;re not into ';nature,'; disregard the above, LOL.





    You can cut off some backtracking from Socorro by taking NM-6, northwest from Los Lunas on I-25, over to I-40.





    Acoma to Mesa Verde, you might want to see Chaco Canyon%26#39;s impressive, stone, Anasazi villages, if the weather is good. (The roads from both I-40 to the south, and US550 from the north, can be treacherous during bad weather however.)




    Don%26#39;t miss the VLA visitor center. I wouldn%26#39;t make the long detour just to see the ';dishes'; even if they are much larger then you think. It%26#39;s a bit of a boring loop though. As Casa has mentioned, in Pie Town they really have great pies. The drive on 117 is a bit boring the first part from Quemado but scenic the moment you%26#39;ll reach the outskirts of El Malpais NM. Worth to stop a couple of times. It will be a long day driving this loop and visit Acoma Pueblo same day. Don%26#39;t worry about roadconditions, both us60 and nm117 are in good condition. No services between Quemado and Grants though.



    Tet

    Anybody know Los Poblanos B&B?

    This B%26amp;B looks interesting on their web site %26amp; I was wondering if anybody%26#39;s stayed there. We tend to be on the picky side, our tastes running to 4 stars, but also looking for a good value.



    Anybody know Los Poblanos B%26amp;B?


    We stayed at Los Poblanos (the Armijo Room) for 1 nite in Oct. and loved it. We definitely wished it could have been a longer stay. It is a uniquely beautiful property filled with art, local culture and historic bldgs. It was once part of a large rancho. The current 25 acres include 1920鈥檚 and 1930鈥檚 era buildings, 8 guest rooms, 1 guest house, formal gardens, lotus ponds, lavender fields, organic gardens and historic farm buildings. The bldgs were designed by famed New Mexican architect, John Gaw Meem who became known as the father of Santa Fe style architecture. Many other well-known craftspeople, artisans and artists also contributed to the design and decor of Los Poblanos. If you love history and art, and appreciate a rustic ambiance, this is a very special place to stay. Hospitable staff and good breakfast, too. Our room was comfortable, quiet and very restful. You won%26#39;t be close enough to walk to the Old Town area, but it%26#39;s a short drive away.



    Anybody know Los Poblanos B%26amp;B?


    I%26#39;ve never stayed there but have attended many events at LP and seen the rooms, you will love the property and the proximity to a couple of good wineries ( Casa Rondena is very close and worth a visit just to see the property ) and restaurants ( Flying Star, Sadie%26#39;s, Sophia%26#39;s ) and close enough to Old Town to drive there in a few minutes.




    One of my favorites places. I%26#39;ve never stayed there personally, but have put my in-laws up there a couple of times and they loved it. I%26#39;ve attended a number of events here and never been dissapointed; I don%26#39;t think you can really go wrong. The area is also one of the most beautiful in ABQ, as it is along the river. This offers quite a bit more greenery than you will find in other areas of town. Just up the road is the Flying Star; good eats! A little further down the road (not in walking distance unless you really like to walk) is Old Town.




    Here are over twenty ';reviews'; from prior guests. It sounds wonderful!





    tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60933-d215076-鈥?/a>

    Help - Which Hotel Should I Choose?

    I am torn between two hotels - Inn on the Alameda - or - Inn of the Anasazi....which hotel would you choose? Will be in Santa Fe for 4 nights in February.



    Help - Which Hotel Should I Choose?


    Hi,





    If you read the reviews in this forum you most certainly be torn. I know the Inn of the Anasazi is very reasonable priced right now. I am staying there next week. I%26#39;ve been to Santa Fe probably 10ish times and know you can%26#39;t really go wrong with either. Personally the Inn of the Anasazi is one of or the top hotel in Santa Fe with a focus on service/location and recently updated rooms.





    Call both hotels and see what they are offering.Hope this helps.



    Help - Which Hotel Should I Choose?


    I would stay at Inn of the Anasazi in a heartbeat! Great location, wonderful decor and restaurant and right off the plaza, across from museums and near other great restaurants.





    Inn on the Alameda is nice too, but further from the Plaza and when it is cold and icy, not a fun walk!


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  • Stay in Carlsbad or head to Las Cruces?

    We will be arriving (late) on a Friday night in Carlsbad from San Antonio. We plan on doing the caverns and the Living Desert Zoo. Should we head to Las Cruces (or maybe El Paso) or just stay in Carlsbad? I hate to waste travel time if we are just going to be at a hotel by 5 pm on Saturday night. I also saw that the hotels in Carlsbad aren%26#39;t that great, right?





    Also - my google maps tells me to go from Carlsbad over to Las Cruces, but it looks like people on here say it%26#39;s quicker to head back down to El Paso. I would like to see White Sands possibly, could we do the Caverns, Zoo and WS all in one day and get to Las Cruces at a decent time Saturday night? Our ultimate destination is Anaheim area through Phoenix, visiting friends and family along the way and other nature/historical stops.





    Thanks for your advice :)



    Stay in Carlsbad or head to Las Cruces?


    Hi



    You%26#39;ll need all day to visit the Caverns and Living Desert SP. Best Western Stevens Inn is at the south side of Carlsbad and has a decent restaurant (The Fume). The new Holiday Inn is at the northern side of Carlsbad and closest to Living Desert. It%26#39;s a 30-45 minutes from Carlsbad to the Caverns entrance and you%26#39;ll need at least half a day for the Caverns, an aboslute highlight. Then drive to Living Desert SP for a visit. You also need at least 2 hours for it and I highly recommend it. It%26#39;s like a little Arizona Sonora Desert Museum in Tucson. I would drive next day via Artesia and Cloudcroft (great views on White Sands far below) and visit White Sands NM before driving to Las Cruces. The drive from Artesia to White Sands is scenic. So my advice, stay at the Holiday Inn, visit Carlsbad Caverns first and Living Desert SP in the afternoon. If you decide to drive to White Sands same day maybe stay overnight in Cloudcroft or Alamogordo. You%26#39;ll have to backtrack to White Sands if you drive to Las Cruces. Shortest route to Las Cruces from Carlsbad already is a 3-3.5 hours drive via El Paso.



    Tet



    Stay in Carlsbad or head to Las Cruces?


    I think you%26#39;ll have to make some compromises, but isn%26#39;t that almost always true?





    Here is the website for the ';self-guided'; tours in Carlsbad Caverns. I think you%26#39;d want the do-it-yourselves versions because they give you more flexibility.





    nps.gov/cave/…selfguided_tours.htm





    The ';full'; tour, from the natural entrance (cave mouth), and then through the Big Room is about 2 1/2 miles. You have two optional choices however if you%26#39;re short on time. In the first, you may enter the natural entrance just outside the Visitors Center, and walk gradually down over 700ft. This is a walk for people in good physical condition. About a mile and a half. To me, it is also the most enjoyable, because you are so close to many spectacular formations. At it%26#39;s end, there are elevators back to the Visitor%26#39;s Center at the surface. You can do this ';half'; tour, and ride up on the elevators, or take in the Big Room also...another mile or so, or the third choice, ride the elevators down from the VC and take in the Big Room only and return to the surface via elevator. This is the ';fastest'; tour. If all in your ';clan'; are in good shape, I%26#39;d recommend the natural entrance, and then back up on the elevators. (Unless you are doing the whole enchilada). :-)





    You didn%26#39;t say ';when'; you are coming to NM. The drive from Artesia, west through Cloudcroft is very scenic, but Cloudcroft is at 9,000ft. elevation, so snow is a consideration in winter. If in summer, no problem, and a great highway. The highway comes out about five miles north of Alamogordo, and you can continue to Las Cruces, and take in White Sands National Monument enroute. If you go from Carlsbad to El Paso, and back NE to Alamogordo to take in the sands, it would be way out of the way. I%26#39;d vote for Carlsbad, Artesia, Cloudcroft, Alamogordo if the weather is good.





    You should be able to hit the caverns (the natural entrance opens at 8:30am in Winter), and take in what you wish. If a ';half'; trip, you should be able to get out, and get to Alamogordo for the evening. If you%26#39;re in early enough, you could go out to the sands (about 15 miles west) until closing, and return to Alamogordo. The Living Desert Museum is nice, BUT I don%26#39;t think anywhere near the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum. Stop in Tucson instead, and on the west side of the city, and within a couple of miles, you%26#39;ll get the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum, Old Tucson Studios (sets where many westerns have been made), and you%26#39;re also in the midst of Saguaro National Park with its giant, pipe organ cacti. A drive from Alamogordo to Tucson even with a W.S. stop, should be relatively easy, as most of it will be on I-10. You may even press on to Phoenix if you don%26#39;t mind arriving a little late. Hope this helps. Have a great trip.




    As others have said, it will take you all day to visit the Caverns and Living Desert. If you can, take the Natural Entrance into the Caverns. Wonderful experience walking into the place (you can not hike out, only can take the elevator out). Not really difficult, but not easy.





    I would stay in Carlsbad... either the Stevens Inn or there is a newer Holiday Inn Express. Restaurants aren%26#39;t the greatest, but there are a few, mostly chains. Also a visit to the river area is cool.





    Then you can drive the next day to Alamogordo to see White Sands and on to Las Cruces. Not much more time that route. Also stop and see Cloudcroft and the observatories there.





    Day 1 Friday: Arrive Carlsbad late. Stay Holiday Inn Express.



    Day 2 Saturday: Carlsbad Caverns Natural Entrance and maybe a guided tour once there. Plan on at least 5 hours at the Caverns. It is at least 1/2 hour between the places plus you need to have lunch. Then head to Living Desert. At least 2 hours. Stay again in Carlsbad. Take some time to relax, it is vacation.



    Day 3 Sunday: Drive to Alamogordo via Cloudcroft. Then on to Las Cruces and on to Tucson area. Maybe stop in Tombstone AZ.